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General Chat / Tornado classic for sale
« Last post by Alotofusguys on January 01, 2019, 07:45:23 PM »
I live in the Boise Idaho area. I have a tornado classic for sale I have 26 brand new men in about 10 balls the tables about a year old I paid 1800 for it. I'm asking about 950. I could possibly deliver all depends on how far you are away my number is 208 703 6010
General Chat / Re: Second opinion about a Tornado Table
« Last post by Alotofusguys on January 01, 2019, 07:40:03 PM »
I'm selling a tornado classic foosball table. I just gotten 26 new men and I have about 10 balls. And I'm asking 900. I've had it for about a year-and-a-half I paid 1800. My number is 208 703 6010. My email
General Chat / Re: Ground Truth - which foosball is for tournament play?
« Last post by alaskan thunder on December 31, 2018, 08:22:32 AM »
General Chat / Coin Op Rene Pierre for sale
« Last post by alaskan thunder on December 30, 2018, 12:55:33 PM »
Asking $850 but will consider reasonable offers.

I have an awesome Rene Pierre coin op clone for sale. From what I can gather it was made in North Carolina in the late 70's or early 80's. See ad below. For those who don't know me, I have sold 8 or 10 tables on this forum and can provide references if necessary.

For sale is a late 70's or early 80's Le Grande coin operated foosball table. It's a Rene Pierre clone and is very well built. This is a 30 or 40 year old table so it isn't perfect but it is in very good condition for it's age and is a blast to play on. It plays pretty close to a Bonzini B60 that I sold about 6 months ago. The table can be played on just fine now. I have included a bunch of pictures so you can clearly see the condition of the table. If you have any questions or want other specific pics feel free to message me.

The good: The bones of the table are in good shape. Cabinet itself is solid and shows very little wear. The wood only has a few small scuffs and marks. It sat in a conditioned warehouse for the last 15 years so that makes sense. The coin mech and internals all work. The playing surface is solid with only a few small imperfections. The majority of the men are in good shape though they could probably stand to be repainted. All of the rods except for one are straight. These French-style tables are always really pretty and this one is no exception. It really is a beautiful combo of form and function. 

The bad: A few parts need replacing before the table will play perfectly. The prior owner replaced the original handles with rubber ones that fit and play fine but they are ugly and don't match the aesthetic of the table. If I were going to keep the table I would replace these. From what I can gather, the cost would be around $18/per. The majority of the men are solid but 4 of them are cracked and should be replaced. Looks like that cost is around the same as the handles. The remaining 18 men could use a paint job but have no visible cracks or issues. One of the rods drags and it seems that the internal portion of the telescoping rod might be bent. I understand that there is a way to straighten this without having to replace it but I have never done that. The MDF under the playing surface is solid but the Gerflex surface has a small imperfection near one of the walls. Doesn't impact the play of the table but ideally it would be replaced. Looks like replacement is about $40 and apparently the install is very easy. Finally, the legs have some moisture damage on the very bottom. Nothing rotten but looks rough. I thought about repairing and putting a plastic dip on them but I don't know exactly how it would look so I've held off.

All told, this is a great table that can either be used as is, fully refurbished, or something in between. Given that it's coin operated and very heavy, it could be set up to be used in a retail establishment. It's also great for a home because of it's looks and the safety of telescoping rods. I am located in Florida but can ship the table for a reasonable price (just shipped a Bonzini FL > NY for around $250). This is a very good price for a solid table. I just sold a Bonzini coin op for $1900 and this table plays similar for less than half the cost of that and about 1/4 the cost of a new one. 

Thanks for looking!
General Chat / Re: Ground Truth - which foosball is for tournament play?
« Last post by LewisTD on December 30, 2018, 11:37:40 AM »
So, the pink fuzzy ones are the ones I could expect at a Tornado tournament? I hope so, I prefer that one.
General Chat / Re: Ground Truth - which foosball is for tournament play?
« Last post by alaskan thunder on December 30, 2018, 11:06:18 AM »
Depends on what type of tournament you are playing. Tornado tournaments use pink 5 hour tumbled balls. Warrior tournaments use yellow warrior balls. Bonzini tournaments use the ITSF B balls. 
General Chat / Re: Brown Marble Serial#1272
« Last post by LewisTD on December 30, 2018, 10:11:03 AM »
Almost forgot, the aluminum foil and water worked great to rejuvenate the rods!
General Chat / Re: Brown Marble Serial#1272
« Last post by LewisTD on December 30, 2018, 10:08:42 AM »
Marching forward....

I have the new clear side strips coming today, I removed the older white side strips:

What a mess! I've never done this before so I tried a variety of things to clean it up. I used alcohol, a razor blade, water, but what ended up working great was Goof Off gel. I didn't have to use a ton and I only let it sit for 5 seconds before scrubbing it out. I was kinda worried it would soak into the seam and affect the glue laminate. I don't know if that's a real concern, but to be safe, I would apply the Goof Off, and start scrubbing.

This was after 1 pass:

It took a total of 2 passes to get it clean, but I made a 3rd just to be safe.

Hopefully the Goof Off is a safe option, it worked great if anyone else is trying to remove the white plastic strip residue.

Work left to do:
Install clear side strips
Install new handles
Install new 3 rods for both forwards
Install new bumpers
Install\Refresh bearings
Build light fixture (Not 100% sure how I'm going to do this still)
Install coasters (Need to source these still)

General Chat / Ground Truth - which foosball is for tournament play?
« Last post by LewisTD on December 29, 2018, 12:54:26 PM »
I've been doing lots of reading, and getting more and more confused about what foosball I should be using to practice with.

I ordered 2 sets of foosballs. I ordered these from Amazon

and I also ordered a pink and red set from

Which one should I use if I wanted to use the same balls I would expect at a tournament? Why the difference? Is the yellow one any different than the pink one?

We used to call the red ones Crisco balls because they were so slick. Watching the tournament games on youtube, it appears they are using the pink balls. I've never seen a yellow ball in the wild.
Rules Questions / Re: Pass from goalie 3 to 5
« Last post by alaskan thunder on December 27, 2018, 11:46:42 PM »
Illegal. Same rules apply as 2-5 and 5-3 passing.
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