Yes, I agree. I do credit Tornado with creating a comercially viable standardized table. Somewhat like the coin op Valley 3.5' X 7' pool table and it's ilk. Nothing like the snooker tables of my youth, but still billiards and available to the public so commercial succe$$ happens. Truth be told I'll play on anything if I can get someone to grab the handles on the other side! Keep up the good posts bb and remember one of these days I'll see you ...across the table!