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Offline foozkillah

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Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2009, 02:06:35 PM »
Brian,     Am I oversensitive or is there a little bit of a xenophobic subtext in your postings?  ::) :-\ 

Both!  HAHAHAHA!  Prolly spent too much time in my junior high exchange student days in London, UK, teasing our "froggie" classmates about their 2hr-lunch and vino-all-day lifestyle, which is as they say here, "Nice work if you can get it..."  Now, mind you, my friends and I would cross over in the pre-Chunnel days to use our u-Rail passes, or go for rides with our friends there in their parents' hilarious old Citro's or Peugies, complete with that "perpetual motion" shock & suspension systems... not good after much vino and trying to look cool to our Frenchie buddies' sisters.  Now I had no problems with the Renaults, but compared to our German friends' cars and my uncle's old old Ferrari in Bologne, the Gaullic autos were very very different and unique. ::) ::)

The girls more than made up for it, though, at least the ones our age back then...  (age of insane hormones!!)  Only Germanic region we found similar were those on either side of the German-Danish border.  No fear and super-friendly, even with my absolutely shameless hooligan "Limey" classmates.  They all thought they were "007" on the continent.  More like "Bong, the name is Bong!"   :P :P

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I'm not sure about the DTFB rating system. I just know that the one P4P uses is working pretty well, so I thought it might serve as an example or a model for other associations (I didn't know they, too, were facing problems). It has nothing to do with general teutonic efficiency, even though, as Phil once rightly remarked, Germans tend to be anal about this kind of stuff.

Now that would be a surprise if the newer liga for Tecball wasn't as anal about updating points and results as the more established Lehmacher/P4P one, which is why I asked.

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By the way, I'm not into cars at all. If a was a millionaire, I'd buy a 1968 Mustang Fastback, or even a Shelby GT. To me, advanced technology isn't everything... 

When you become a millionaire, you might wish to look for rusty or neglected old Mustangs and restore them.  That would be a noble calling.  In the early 80s my best Temple U buddy was Barry Kruse, whose dad was the last military commander of the Philadelphia Navy Yard BTW, and they lived across the river in Marlton, NJ.  Barry had an old restored baby-8 Pony (with latter help from moi!!!), and we used to take that convertible all over South Philly and South Jersey !  That was the life!  My brother and I had a stripped-down 78 Plymouth Fury, state police highway interceptor version bought at auction, that our dad helped us get street legit and ready...  That was sleeper, all the way down to the ugly mustard-brown-beige paintjob and plain Jane tires.

What's wrong with you Patrick?  :D You turning 'Merikanen or something?  8) A fever temperature, maybe???
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Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2009, 07:24:40 AM »
Brian,     Am I oversensitive or is there a little bit of a xenophobic subtext in your postings?  ::) :-\ 

Both!  HAHAHAHA!  Prolly spent too much time in my junior high exchange student days in London, UK, teasing our "froggie" classmates about their 2hr-lunch and vino-all-day lifestyle, which is as they say here, "Nice work if you can get it..."
Yeah... the famous "Savoir vivre". Don't expect me to comment on this. That lifestyle never made it across the Rhine. Let me finish munching my potatoes, I gotta get back to WORK!

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Now, mind you, my friends and I would cross over in the pre-Chunnel days to use our u-Rail passes, or go for rides with our friends there in their parents' hilarious old Citro's or Peugies, complete with that "perpetual motion" shock & suspension systems... not good after much vino and trying to look cool to our Frenchie buddies' sisters.  Now I had no problems with the Renaults, but compared to our German friends' cars and my uncle's old old Ferrari in Bologne, the Gaullic autos were very very different and unique. ::) ::)
I think those Renaults, Peugeots and Citroëns are cars for real men. Anyone can look self-confident in a BMW, but you gotta have balls to look cool when you don't know if your car will make it to the next corner...

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The girls more than made up for it, though, at least the ones our age back then...  (age of insane hormones!!)  Only Germanic region we found similar were those on either side of the German-Danish border.  No fear and super-friendly, even with my absolutely shameless hooligan "Limey" classmates.  They all thought they were "007" on the continent.  More like "Bong, the name is Bong!"   :P :P
Damn. I was born too late. "Insane hormones" sounds great. The Bong thing, though, has definitely improved since then... Which sometimes makes up for the lack of hormones...

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Now that would be a surprise if the newer liga for Tecball wasn't as anal about updating points and results as the more established Lehmacher/P4P one, which is why I asked.
Those two organizations are structured very differently, as you might know, and I don't know much about the DTFB. P4P is THE association if it comes to players being interested in their ranking. P4P is the Alpha-Game in Germany, if you know what I mean...

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When you become a millionaire, you might wish to look for rusty or neglected old Mustangs and restore them.  That would be a noble calling.  In the early 80s my best Temple U buddy was Barry Kruse, whose dad was the last military commander of the Philadelphia Navy Yard BTW, and they lived across the river in Marlton, NJ.  Barry had an old restored baby-8 Pony (with latter help from moi!!!), and we used to take that convertible all over South Philly and South Jersey !  That was the life!  My brother and I had a stripped-down 78 Plymouth Fury, state police highway interceptor version bought at auction, that our dad helped us get street legit and ready...  That was sleeper, all the way down to the ugly mustard-brown-beige paintjob and plain Jane tires.
Sounds great, but as I said: I don't know much about cars. But I guess I would have liked that Plymouth a lot.

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What's wrong with you Patrick?  :D You turning 'Merikanen or something?  8) A fever temperature, maybe???
Now that you guys finally got a PRESIDENT, I might think about it...

No, seriously, I've always been pro-American. If sometimes I'm up-front about some issues, it's because I think one should use unambigous words among friends...

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Offline EDGEER

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Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2009, 01:06:10 PM »
Hey body,  I need some help locating ratings online for your area.  Are there any websites that list the top players in your regions?

Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2009, 03:10:50 PM »
Hi Ed,

this is the P4P Ranking:

http://www.players4players.de/Rangliste.rangliste.0.html

"Doppel" means doubles, "Einzel" means singles.
N = Neuling = Amateur
A = Amateur = Semi Pro
M = Master = Pro
E = Elite = Pro Master

P4P is an independent international organization (though heavily focussed on Germany), uses a permanent Elo-ranking and has nothing to do with the ITSF.

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This is the DTFB (Deutscher Tischfußballbund = German Table Soccer Association) ranking page:

http://www.dtfb.de/index.php?filter_jahr=2008&option=com_tsleague&task=ranglisten&Itemid=104

The DTFB is a member of the ITSF and, as I understand it, uses their point system. No Elo, but based on tournament placements. Since it is a national ranking system, international tournaments are only taken into account if they are organized by the DTFB.

I hope this will serve your needs. If not, please contact me again.

Cheerz

Pat

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Offline EDGEER

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Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2009, 03:30:11 PM »
Does the DTFB have a ranking system?

Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2009, 03:28:44 AM »
No... Sorry for the misunderstanding. They have a point system, like the ITSF.

I should add that the DTFB is the umbrella organization for the German league system, not the organizer of a tour.

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Offline EDGEER

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Re: What's wrong with the rating system ?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2009, 12:30:28 PM »
Pat can you send me your email addy?