Alright BB, now you have to give this table a bit of time, granted, to assess just how playable it is. It's not a Tornado, not a TS. But do you see why I say that there will be some new and interesting styles of play on this table. Something about the liveliness of the ball coupled with the grab on the ball, once someone who plays on the edge get's the feel, well interesting things are going to happen.