Topic: thinking of buying a table t2000 F5?

[bbtuna]

as I said to start this, $700 would be too much to pay for a Brown Marble...I play weekly on a Brown Marble which has been in this same bar for 15 years and I would buy it gladly for $400 bucks...put a few new rods on it, change out a couple bearings and a few men and I would have a rockin table even though there are a couple chips around the goal mouth but that happens to every table I play on because I hit the edge quite a bit

so, if I could pull the thing off, with rods, men, shipping for $700 and I still have a table that will last another 20 years, then that is a lot less than $1150 for a tournament used Grey Marble (don't buy the new F5 coin-op yet) and $150-$175 shipping --  $700 verses $1300 is almost double

now, if money isn't an issue or you could wait a few months and afford the Grey Marble then I say get the newer table but that isn't always possible for everyone

[wildcard]

If you are gonna get an old brown marble, you either need to change out the surface for the newest one or find some of the old balls from late 80's-early 90's that went to the brown marbles or blondes. I have a blonde, and although the new fuzzy balls work well enough, they are actually too sticky for the old surface IMO--at our local pub we got the vendor to put new fuzzy balls in an old browntop and it played too slow for me. When I traded them out for the older balls that came with my 1999 blonde CO2000 , it speeded up play while making the pinning and ball control closer to what today's slicker surface plays like with the newer fuzzy balls. Ultimately you want to practice on something that is as close as possible to what you will be playing on at tourneys.

[foosit]

check out http://tornadofoosb.powweb.com/tornadofoosballcominc/

anyone buy from these guys?  they are actually about 3 hours away so definately a possibility.

[foosit]

bbtuna - did you do anything to your table to protect against mouth chipping?

[bbtuna]

foosit, this is the place I have mentioned in a number of posts owned and run by Charles McIntosh 30+ year promoter and the largest seller of Tornado coin-op tables (thanks to Mary Moore is good friend and the largest tournament promoter in the country - by a very large margin - IFP Independent Foosball Promotions)

I did not do anything about chipping, I thought the table would hold up better in this area but I clearly should have

[EDGEER]

I got this in a email from florida foosball

i am selling 4 tables that are 2 years old from rudys. i am buying new ones. i do this about every 2 years. normally i get appox. 900 each. i want to sell them fast so, i am selling them for 750 each. if someone was interested in all of them i would take 700 each. please let everyone know. they can pay with credit card but 7% tax would have to be added.

 

bobby diaz

If your interested Get in touch with me and I will pass his number allong to you.

[bbtuna]

ed, is this for grey marble later edition or is the earlier anniversary edition?  this is from bobby Diaz bar I assume?

[bbtuna]

if they are the last gery marble I would be interested in at least 1 and maybe all 4

[EDGEER]

Email sent

[BBPushin]

If anyone is still thinking about buying a f5.  Think again.  I personally own a T2000.  It is a 2006 model.  I play weekly tounys on the grey marble coin opp table.  I can't tell any difference, they play the same.  My friend bought a new f5 about 3-4 weeks ago.  I have been playing on it quite a bit.  It is a totally different table.  The playing surface is alot faster/slippery.  shooting a roll over is strange, if you try to go back and forth between a f5 and a grey marble.....good luck.  All of the new tornados with the exception of the coin opp, have playing surfaces made in china.  they are totally different.  My advise....find a used coin opp,  the weight, the surface, the rods, the men....are all the same as any tounament you'll play.  Go to tornadofoosball.com, they have really good deals.

[foosit]

decided to buy a grey marble coin op from Charles McIntosh, $950 + freight.  I thought that sounded good.  it's a 2005.  I'll post again after I get it in case anyone else is thinking about buying a table from him. 

[Rios]

good choice, I played on the table with BB a few weeks ago and then on a new coin op F5 and he is right, the table surface is totally different.
You will be happy with your Grey!
Congrats!!!

[bbtuna]

950 is okay just make sure it
1. isn't an Anniversary model
2. has all heat-treated rods
3. has men that are NOT nylon

anyone looking should be considering Ed Geers connection wiht Bobby Diaz who is selling his Grey Marbles for 750...they would have more use than a tournament table but I would have to believe that he takes good care of them

[foosit]

what is wrong with the anniversary version?  slicker surface?  is that it?

[bbtuna]

yes and most of them didn't have all heat-treated rods

I didn't mind the surface so much but players much better than me complained about how slick they were

charles M should be able to tell you with no issue and he should not take offense with the questions in any way, he will understand