Rios, if you ever played on the Deutscher Meister table in the 70's you would know that matches don't go an hour and a half even though the feet were wide and the goal small. Good shot's were just that, good shots. Maybe you were around then, I don't know, but each table brings it's own level of play, it's own effective shots and it's own effective defense. The thing is to find a table that allows the best of each or comes close so that styles aren't excluded. Tornado's are fast, that's a given and critical too which is good for separating the men from the boys I guess. But it doesn't support the style of play that many old time foosers enjoyed as well as many Euro players enjoy. It's a well built table and it has become the norm, I'll give it that, but today's players can't relate to what was in the diversity that was enjoyed in the 70's. It has become a rather sterile one dimensional type of play for most. The lingo depicts this, Pass, brush or stick. Shot, snake or pull. That's all you need to know for a front man. This game is a lot richer than that. Fredrico is my hero as that is where the game was going as I remember. Those tables in Europe allow so many more options, yes, it is about time we get a table that is more playable, gives more to the defense, and let's the shots of the 70's become an option again. Wow, that was a rant wasn't it. Sorry Rios, it's not you, just me sounding off.