Oh ya I player the 28th ranked player in the world in a DYP I had to switch to a front pin because my pull wore me out .Big R.O. from Detroit . 8)was relentless he kept getting me on his far wall brush up pass anyway the ball flew around the table I circled the ball as it rolled to Big R.O.s 5 man I knew it would be a brush up pass sure enugh it scooted by me my partner blocked his first shot but he got it right back and scored even though we lost I was a great match. I hope to play somemore playes of that caleber.