Wow, Bbtuna, what a statement coming from you, a seemingly stalwart of the Tornado persuasion. Well you got my interest up. Lack of control has always been my beef with Tornado as it limits the wide open play we enjoyed during the 70's. With every variance there comes into play a different effective style. I always liked to catch the ball with a pin and if it was right, go into a shot. Not really hacking but more a freedom to go with the flow. Tornado really put the hamper on that. Since getting back into the game I've struggled with my "foos identity". Maybe with a little more control I could make the double reversals "dance" again, front pinning a ball and going away and back so that the ball comes inline as I come back around to pick it up with a push that almost seems to happen mid-air, the dance. Can't do that on Tornados and that translates into lack of freedom of play. So, like I said, You've pequed my interest Bbtuna. Which ball most closely comes to the Warrior?
I beg to respectfully disagree, since I played for a year with Pascal a beginner player, now back in Belgium, who was a Jupiter & P4P player. ALL, I mean ALL, his pass catching from 5bar to 3bar was to a pin.
He went back to Belgium this spring, and never had a complaint about the control, just like Rico and all his friends used to sticky balls and tables. A couple of beginner players tried emulating his technique, and it wasn't too long before they were passing brushes, sticks, and bank passes to a pin. Of course it was the techique and philosophy that many Euro players share that was the solution, nothing to do with the table.
I am sorry to say that had someone showed you, or you had found someone to show you the right technique, you would have none of these problems. I believe anyone can use the right technique to play whatever style they wish on any table. Just the breaks. And the willingness to adjust from the old way.
Too many well-intentioned players, screwed up by whomever they first learned from, think because a technique worked, that it should work or something's wrong with the table.
Example: You see a lot beginners being taught to point their 3bar feet away from the 5bar to help catch a pass, which is ridiculous from the point of view of good passers. Good ones have the 3bar straight down or even pointing backwards, and just catch the ball, having learned to "give" with the shock, and having maximum time to control the pass. And that's why there's a whole generation of morons who never figured out why some players just have those "sick" passing sequences. They can't figure out the "shock absorber" at the end of the pass, or why they rarely let a hard wall or brush down slip through, ever.
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