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Offline Tyler Foos

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Re: mental attitude
« Reply #180 on: May 29, 2009, 03:48:16 PM »
Zeek,

In your 'more stuff' reply above you mention the 'universal consciousness' Bill describes. It sounds very similar to the early psychological pioneer Carl Jung, who describes a 'collective unconscious' which basically holds that as more and more information is collected (universally) the more that knowledge translates to the individual level. They took numerous (in the hundreds, I believe) 5th grade classes all over the world and had a teacher (different for each) instruct each class on a specific topic that neither the teacher nor class knew anything about prior to the experiment. The observed result (remembering that each lesson was completely isolated from all others) was that the more that lesson was taught, the easier is was to grasp by successive classes. Because their was no interaction among groups, the conclusion was that the collective unconscious was developing a greater pool of wisdom and that each successive class was benefitting from that pool. The lesson became easier to teach by each teacher and was learned quicker by the students the more it was taught universally. Ten minds are better than one, and twenty are better than 10, etc.

Good 'stuff', agreed!

Tyler

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #181 on: May 29, 2009, 04:53:51 PM »
All this information so far deals with the world of the mind and all its creations. There is another level. The no mind world, enlightment etc. The stuff many people consider "mysticlal", "magical" even "airy fairy". The stuff of the eastern mystical religions. Carl Jung, Alan Watts and many others have studied this level extensivily, And i have studied many of their works. It is absolutly fascinating. Maybe we can get in to it a little after i finish what im doing if anyone is interested.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 04:57:09 PM by zeek mullins »

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #182 on: June 05, 2009, 10:09:59 PM »
So here we go. This method (or some form of it) is how all successful people get anything they want in life. If you will be patient and work through it with me, i think you will understand it and agree. And if you do, you will be unstoppble in your quest to be a top level player.

Step One – Know where you are
  If you wanted to go to New York, but you don’t know where you are, how can you know which direction to go. Before you can start on your journey to becoming a top level foosball player, you have to know exactly what level you are at. And it is absolutely imperitive that you be brutally honest with yourself in this matter. (If you are going to New York, and you think you are in Denver but your really in Florida, your gonna end up in the ocean)
  One of the biggest deterents to advancing in the learning curve is thinking we are better than we are (Four Phases of Learning). We do this because we have developed beliefs (programs, concepts), thru previous life experiences, that we are never supposed to be wrong. Modern society constantly pounds us with the standard that we are supposed to be perfect (The Gap), and anything less is not acceptable. As a result we develop “defensive” beliefs designed to protect us against the perfection standard. I call these beliefs the “you cant talk to me like that” (ycttmlt) reaction. Sound familiar? This reaction exist in all of us. The most successful people (top 5%) know this and have learned to deal with it in one way or another. Many of my concepts are aimed at this reaction. Anyway, ycttmlt will come into play as you are making your evaluation of where you are at. Be aware of it and try to recognize it when it happens. Use the witness process to neutralize it, and then replace the negative emotions of ycttmlt with the positive emotions of humility. This will help you stay motivated, and you get the added bonus of not having to feel bad.
  So lets take some inventory. The following questions will help you get a handle on where you are at. The goal is to place ourselves somewhere in the Four Phases of Learning curve. There are for major categories, but there are many sub phases within those. It is important to determine precisely where you are. Dont let ycttmlt keep you from being brutally honest when answering these questions. I would suggest that you get a pencil and paper and write down the questions and your answers. Please do these exercises one at a time and don’t jump ahead.

Basic questions:
What level player do I want to be.
Do I enjoy playing
Do I want to win, or just have fun with friends
What do I think about practicing
What do I think about competition
What do I think about “mental game”
What do I think about “mechanics”
Am I willing to devote the time needed to reach the level I want to be at
Do I understand what it takes to be a top player
How does my game compare to others that I play with on a regular basis.
How does my game compare to the top level players I have seen
What are my beliefs and values about foosball

Here is a way to determine your beliefs and values about foosball. Remember we are looking for your answers, not what someone else has told you you should think or what you may have read in a book somewhere.

To determine your beliefs about something ask the question; (blank) is……..
Foosball is…….
Winning is…….
Practicing is…….
Competition is…….
The mental game is…….
Mechanics are……….
The top players are…….
My game is…….


To determine you values relating to foosball ask the question; (blank) is important to me because…….
Foosball is important to me because…….
Winning is important to me because…….
Practicing is important to me because…….
Competition is important to me because…….
The mental game is important to me because…….
Mechanics are important to me because…….
Being a top player is important to me because…….
My game is important to me because…….

 You may find that some of these things are not important to you. let that be ok and just write that down. This may change as we move along in the process.

Sample Answers:
Beliefs
1) Foosball is a silly game.
2) Foosball is a highly technical game that requires great skill at the top levels.
Values
1) Foosball is important to me because I have fun playing with my friends at the bar.
2) Foosball is important to me because I enjoy competing and want to be the best.

Answering these questions should give considerable insight into where you stand at this moment in your foosball life. As you know by now, I believe that your beliefs and values play a major role in how you experience life. And i believe that thay are the one thing in life that you have total control over. They can be changed! Comparing beliefs to values can reveal if you have any conflicts between them that may keep you from advancing. Use them to get really clear about your starting point as we move to the next step – Knowing where you want to be.

P.S. I hate to keep harping on this, but you have to be brutally honest with yourself in your answers. I know first hand how your ego can interfere. Ycttmlt is very powerful in many of us.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2009, 10:34:24 PM by zeek mullins »

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #183 on: June 07, 2009, 02:45:57 PM »
Thanks for that last post Zeek/John. It's a good exercise. I need to work on the "winning is important". I actually really enjoy practicing to a fault. I used to have a burning desire to win, now I find myself immersed in the playing of the game more than the winning of the game.

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #184 on: June 08, 2009, 02:30:05 AM »
You know, one of the best things I can think of when the going gets tough is I ask myself, "where would I rather be?" This is what I live for. I can do this and want this. That is the thought process that gets me the best results.

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #185 on: June 15, 2009, 04:05:41 PM »
sorry about the delay. Computer went on the fritz

So you have now done a little exploration into your beliefs and values. Not many people have ever stopped to think about them like these questions get you to do. It really opened my eyes about a lot of things the first time I did the exercises. If you want to go a little further in this area, here are a few more areas you can ask the blank is…. and blank is important because……. question about

Life, people, family, money etc.

Just remember to give your heart felt answers, not what someone has told you you should think or what you may have read somewhere.

Step Two – Know where you want to be

You create your reality. And you do this based on how you focus your mind. Your amazing bio computer (genie) is designed to get you anything you want, and you send instructions to this computer based on what you think about and make internal representations of. Hopefully by now you understand that this applies to positive as well as negative results. Focus on positive, your genie creates positive, Focus on negative, you get negative. The catch is that your genie doesn’t distinguish between the two. It just takes what you make representations of and figures out a way to create it. Western society teaches us, from a very young age, that the world is a dangerous place. As a result, we develop the habit of focusing, unconsciously, on what we do not want, with the intention of avoiding it. Since Genie does not understand “avoid”, it takes the representations we make of what we do not want and sets out to create more of it. Understanding this, and knowing a method for dealing with it, is the KEY to becoming a top level foosball player (or anything else).

With this in mind, its time to decide where you want to go with your game. Do you want to be a top level player, a casual player, or somewhere in between? Keep in mind that your level of desire will determine how far you will go. There is a price to pay, work to be done, to reach whatever level you decide on, and your level of desire will determine if you get there or not. Its very important that you do not set the bar higher than you are willing and able to pay the price for. If you find you are not willing, or are unable to give the dedication required to reach the top level, let that be ok. Chances are there is something else in your life that is more important. Apply the six step method to that, and decide to just have fun playing foosball at a lower level (you can always increase your level later if your desire increases).

You have decided what level you want to be. (If you are not sure, go back to step one and work through to here again. Be sure!) Lets make a movie.

Find a place where you can sit quietly and not be disturbed. Try to clear your mind. Close your eyes and do the following:

Make a ten to fifteen second movie in your head. Visualize yourself in a place where you have accomplished your goal. See your self thinking and acting like you have already succeeded. Notice your surroundings. Notice how it feels to be there. See your friends congratulating you for having achieved your level. Feel all the positive emotions of your success. Vividly see yourself as having already succeeded!

This little movie is a key part of the rest of this process! As I mentioned before, your mind cannot tell the difference between an actual happening and one that is vividly imagined. Every time you run your movie in your mind you will be focusing on what you want! I suggest you run it in the morning when you first get up and every night before you go to bed. And as many times during the day as you can. Every time you find yourself feeling unmotivated (focusing on what you do not want) get in the habit of switching to your movie. I guarantee your genie will get the message.

Now you know where you are at, where you want to go, and have a vivid picture of what it will feel like to get there. You are ready to create an action plan and get started.

Step Three – Take Action
« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 04:10:52 PM by zeek mullins »

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #186 on: June 19, 2009, 10:00:18 PM »
Step Three – Take Action

There are two very important “secrets” to understand about achieving a goal. If you do not accept these two concepts, you will have a hard time staying motivated as you begin to take action.

“Secret” #1 – Top level foosball players did not know anymore about being top level, when they began, than you do! They were not born with their skills and they did not come by them magically. They experienced all the adversities that the rest of us do (and probably more). The difference between them and the 95%rs is that they did not let unwanted outcomes cause them to give up! All my stuff is about a way of thinking that helps promote this!

“Secret” #2 – You do not have to know exactly what you are going to do before you can begin taking action! If you do not have a plan, just take the best action you can think of. Then evaluate the feedback, decide what worked and what didn’t, adjust and take more action based on what you learned. If you do this, you will learn what works, and you will become very wise in the process. Thinking you have to have all the answers before you can take action is one of the major reasons that people give up before they ever get started!

Note: Obviously there are many things you can do to figure out the proper actions to take. Ill get to that next. But the point is that you can not get started to your goal until you take action. Having no plan may mean you will take a little longer to get there, but you will get there. You must take action.

So we are taking action. Lets look at what we have to guide us as we go:

Concepts (all designed to give you a way of thinking that will allow you to deal with adversity)
  Let whatever Happens Be OK
  Witnessing 
  Time
  The Gap
  The Game of Black and White
  “You”
  Reality
  Personal Responsibility
  The Safety Issue
  Going The Extra Mile
  How Can I
  The Capacity For Faith
  Chunking
If you can understand, accept and adopt these ways of thinking, adversity will loose its power over you.

Useful Information:
  Personality Types
  Four Stages of Learning

Sources of Information
  Books,
  CD’s
  Modeling
  Mastermind Group

Decide what you are going to do to begin, and START TAKING ACTION. Remember that adversity is now your friend. You learn much more from an unwanted outcome than from a successful one. Use all the information above to stay motivated. Have fun, be patient and have faith. You now know a way of thinking that makes you unstoppable. The only way you can fail is to give up.

Step Four – Evaluate your action and adjust

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Re: mental attitude
« Reply #187 on: June 24, 2009, 08:13:59 PM »
washedUOB,

Just like any ball game or sport, the critical separation is ball control.  As long as you have ball control, and the longer you keep it, the less chance, logically for your opponent to mis-hit or slop the ball.  An early thing I learned early is how to fight for, and I mean REALLY SCRAP, to get control of EVERY LOOSE BALL, no matter if it's a tour event, a regional, a local or just pickups.  Learn to fetch that loose ball anytime and anywhere, ASAP.  This part is where the good singles and all-around players separate from the doubles and specialists players.  You may or may not be better than your opponent/s, but you can definitely try to live with the ball, getting the most attempts and minimizing the other's chances.

Verbal gamesmanship?  I say internalize it, speaking silently or even aloud to yourself, to keep that sence of urgency about always getting that loose ball.  Tell yourself that the opponent/s will get the breaks, perhaps all of them, and when you can convince yourself to accept that, you won't mind or whine or change your demeanor when they do happen, but simply continue on, grabbing control of the majority of possessions.  If breaks don't happen, or stop going their way, then your mantra is working even better!  This is also great when reinforcing your game through practicing to have smooth passing with 2-3 identical looking options per series.  Same goes without saying for shooting, to get a higher percentage and keep pressure on the opponent/s.  Keep on talking, to yourself.  If you won't listen to you, then noone else, least of all the foosgods, will.

Tempo is another great characteristic of advanced play.  Simply playing slower will backfire if the opponent gets even more comfortable with that particular game, and remember they've already got the breaks, prolly pulling even or even pulling ahead with no real effort on their part.  Playing slowdown or keepaway after you've surrendered the lead can be really SILLY, sometimes.  What works better is what I train those noobs here locally to do, especially when they're playing nets.  I call it "Pulling the String."  Decide to clear, shoot, or pass a ball quickly, immediately or within 2-3 seconds when the opponent/s seem to be slowplaying.  If they're excited, flustered or passing and shooting quickly, THEN grind them down with a slowdown, only clearing, shooting or passing after 14 seconds.  And also throw in a few shots/passes at the  7-8 second midpoint of possessions.  Most good opponents will be able to "time" you or your partner's rhythm if you simply maintain your normal natural passing and shooting cadence.  "Pulling the String" keeps you aware of the game's tempo, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, prevents you and your partner from being sucked up yourselves into certain passes or shots the opponents can anticipate, block and steal.

"Pull the String" a few times, especially with familiar players from your group, and you can do what almost every goalkeeper in a tight competitive match MUST learn to do, unless they can block like Jesus and brick the Devil himself.  In doubles, it is easiest for the goalkeeper to control the tempo by "Pulling the String," with the forward more easily following the goalkeeper's cue.  This prevents the opponent/s from settling down and grooving into the game, and adds release point timing as another factor to worry about in defense.

There will always be streaks within a game where the ball is moving and changing possessions very quickly, and portions where every touch of the ball is very deliberate.  "Pulling the String" and breaking up or at least harrassing the opponents away from getting into a groove or zone should always be part of good advanced play.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2009, 08:24:48 PM by foozkillah »

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #188 on: June 29, 2009, 05:55:56 PM »
Zeek, "Create your own reality" Now there is a loaded statement and how true! Isn't that the crux of all that you have gone over? Nobody succeeds without it. We all place ourselves where we do. We look out of our own eyes and think our own thoughts. We react with our own limbs and dream our own dreams. What we do is by our own honest execution of our chosen reality. Foosball is a game of finesse and execution, eye hand and the dream. So we 'create our own reality'. Anyone can be the player they want to be if they are honest about it. It is not an easy thing, the path or the honesty.

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #189 on: July 09, 2009, 01:48:03 PM »
Step Four – Evaluate your action and adjust

As you begin taking action, monitor the feedback you get. It is very resourceful to keep a log of your actions. Write down every thing you try. Write down new ideas as you get them. Write questions as they come up. Write down what works, and what doesn’t. Very Important: The secret to using your list is to monitor not only your actions, but also how you are thinking and the emotions you have during the actions. If you pay attention to this you will begin to notice that successful actions are accompanied by positive thoughts and emotions (internal representations), and unsuccessful actions are usually accompanied by negative thoughts and emotions. You will begin to know the difference between the two ways of thinking and you can begin to adopt the ways that get the results you want. If you will keep this log, you will find that you have written instructions on what to do next!

Don’t let ycttmlt prevent you from asking questions. You will find that the top players are almost always willing to help. And don’t be afraid to ask them how they think. They may not have given it a lot of thought themselves, but if they know how to do what you want to do you can be assured that they have a way of thinking that gets it for them.

Begin building your group of like minded people with similar goals. Share your information with them and they will do the same. When I began playing again about 5 months ago, I was basically a rookie. The new game was very different from what I was used to 30 years ago. I decided to play at Clicks in Arlington, Texas because many of the top players in the area played there (many good rollover shooters there). They didn’t know me from adam. But once I began pestering them with questions, they realized I was serious. Spirit, Patric, Darkside, David Vick, Brad Lessom, and the rest of the guys there are my mastermind group. I found that Ice Moore and I had the same personality type (Emerald). He is very knowledgable about the details of the game, and likes to teach. He kinda became my go to guy, but they all were more than willing to share. I am looking forward to the Toronado Worlds in September. And I guarantee I am going to make my best effort to find a way to pick the brains of Loffredo, Colongon, Spredeman and the other top players. They know what I want to know!

Step Five – Take more action based on what you have learned

Act, learn, adjust, act, learn, adjust………. Be passionate, persistant, and patient. Welcome the unwanted outcomes, they are the ONLY way you learn. Play your movie often. Have faith. Have fun! Its how the big boys think! You now know a way of thinking that can make you one of the big boys in anything you do!

Step Six – Repeat steps 3,4 and 5 til you get what you want.

Let Whatever Happens Be OK

Any Questions?
Johnbinc07@gmail.com

P.S. - What i have talked about is only a very brief outline of the stuff Bill Harris teaches. If you want to get deeper into it, go to www.centerpointe.com and look in to his Life Principles Integration Process course. Also check out his meditation program. i use it.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2009, 02:31:25 PM by zeek mullins »

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #190 on: July 18, 2009, 01:02:55 AM »
nearly 8000 views and not one question. Interesting

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #191 on: July 19, 2009, 12:39:21 AM »
OK, I'll ask it. Is what Bill Harris is selling all that it is claimed to be or is it as much hype as it is truth? I look at it as a bit of a hard sell and that scares me off a bit.

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Re: mental attitude
« Reply #192 on: July 19, 2009, 02:13:34 AM »
Zeek,

I'm too busy "act, learn, adjusting" to ask any questions! Good stuff, my friend...

Tyler

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #193 on: July 19, 2009, 06:11:11 PM »
Bill Harris' LPIP teaching is everything i have been talking about and much more in much more detail. I origionally found him while researching meditation. His meditation program using sound is what allowed me to begin meditating. I am not promoting his stuff other than it works for me and gave me a way of thinking that changed the way i looked at life.

Re: mental attitude
« Reply #194 on: August 03, 2009, 09:16:16 PM »
A note of thanks to all who have posted on this thread. I have learned, & am learning alot. Long live Foosball:fifty percent mental & the other half is in your head.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2009, 09:28:36 PM by jkhFoos »