Cyclone II is a nice practice/home table. I owned a good condition used for a couple of years before purchasing my first coin op. $500 is considered high. Especially to the "experts" on this board. I always temper that with some perspective. If you want the table and its REALLY clean— no warping, rusted rods, bent rods, chipped laminate etc, etc, then offer the guy $400 cash and see what happens. In reality if you wanted to wait it out you could purchase a used coin op for around that price and have a table that will last a lifetime if taken care of properly. Haven't played on the new warriors but again, for a little more money a brand new table. Either way good luck and enjoy your new table!