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Describe the Euro-Pin Shot

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Describe the Euro-Pin Shot
« on: August 02, 2006, 06:42:17 PM »
Hey

     Can somebody describe the Euro-Pin shot for me? I have watched Colligion on the 2006 DVD, but I cant tell really what he is doing. It sometimes looks like he is doing a roll over when he shoots the straight but I cant see how that is possible since his wrist is not on the rod. I am assuming when he pulls the ball towards him from the front pin position, he accelerates past the ball, and when the ball gets to where he wants the shot to go, he gives it a quick flick of the wrist. same for the push side???? I got a Cyclone II about 7 weeks ago, and I have been practicing faithfully. My name is Dave, and I am a foosball addict! hee hee. I can already do most of the different types of shots, and my ball control is getting much better. The hardest thing i find is actually playing against someone. I can practice pullshots for an hour. Even video tape them to see what it looks like. Feel pretty confident with the shot. When you actually put those shots up against someone else it is totally different. My buddy has been playing since he was a kid so he is still beating me every game. I get lucky every once in a while though. ha ha He is left handed so his 5 bar is GREEDY!!! The first few weeks we played I hardly got the ball because of his 5man being so good!  Any tips would be greatly appreciated, and any info on the Euro-Pin as well!

Thanks,  Dave

Re: Describe the Euro-Pin Shot
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2006, 12:39:55 AM »
hey Dave

Well the front pin you are talking about is on the 06 tapes is and isnt a standard front pin....he is flipping the rod over in a controlled spin and catching it with his finger-tips, it is a sick shot...(i played with him some, he can just score at will on me.... and he isnt human...i dont know how he can do it so well.... but i was wondering where u are from...i was hoping i may know someone in your area to help you with your game....

Chase

Re: Describe the Euro-Pin Shot
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 04:49:08 PM »
Chase

Thanks for the reply.....I thought letting go of the rods was illegal even if they spin less than 360 degrees.??? I read that online somewhere.  I guess don't believe everything you read... I have actually been working on my roll over shot the past 3 times I have practiced, and I am becoming much better. I even managed to beat my friend twice that has played since he was a kid...
     I live in the Baltimore area. I know there are some really good players down at Looneys Pub in the city. I may go down there sometime to get some different competition!

Dave

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Re: Describe the Euro-Pin Shot
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 02:38:52 PM »
Thanks for the reply.....I thought letting go of the rods was illegal even if they spin less than 360 degrees.??? I read that online somewhere. I guess don't believe everything you read... I have actually been working on my roll over shot the past 3 times I have practiced, and I am becoming much better. I even managed to beat my friend twice that has played since he was a kid...
 I live in the Baltimore area. I know there are some really good players down at Looneys Pub in the city. I may go down there sometime to get some different compe**ion!

Frederico doesn't let go of the rod except on the straight, and letting go is legal unless it's done in an uncontrolled manner.

There are 2 basic kinds of front pin, closed-handed and open-handed.  Frederico shoots his open handed; this means that the thumb is in front of the rod, and you kind of keep the hand open but swing it back and then forward when you're going push/pull side.  Don swan shoots it closed handed, with his thumb behind the handle and the handle grasp firmly in hand.

Most european toe shooters are proponents of the open-handed style, but it's hard to explain.

The best place to go around Baltimore is 999s Tavern in Jessup, Maryland (near Columbia, just a bit south of Baltimore city).  If you get down there, Adil Hizoune is a local pro who can shoot a pretty good front pin (it's not his primary shot but he's got a decent one); I've never noticed which style his is, but he's a really nice guy and usually willing to show you some things.  Nail Tuzinovic is often up there, he used to have an okay one but I think he's switched to the rollover.  Monty Melchior shoots one but it's more of a crafty, sneaky, lots of options bar shot than a pro-style pin.

Re: Describe the Euro-Pin Shot
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2006, 05:07:41 PM »
" I live in the Baltimore area. I know there are some really good players down at Looneys Pub in the city. I may go down there sometime to get some different compe**ion!"

If you want to get together and play at Looney's some time, drop me a line, I live about 10-15 minutes from there.  I was there last Friday and there were plenty of players on the table (a couple were decent players), and the table is in pretty good shape.

I would be happy to show you the Euro-style front pin shot, just let me know when.


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