Topic: Singles Etiquette

[Carp]

It's been over thirty years since I played in a Tornado Tourney.  I am wondering if there is any Etiquette as far as singles play goes.  i.e., Do most players give the opposition time to get back to goal if they get the ball to their 3 man?  Or is it more, dog eat dog, slap that sucka in da hole type of game?  Give stories and details on what you all prefer?

[RedRazor]

It's been over thirty years since I played in a Tornado Tourney.  I am wondering if there is any Etiquette as far as singles play goes.  i.e., Do most players give the opposition time to get back to goal if they get the ball to their 3 man?  Or is it more, dog eat dog, slap that sucka in da hole type of game?  Give stories and details on what you all prefer?

Are you playing in an Open tournament against your rookie buddy or did you draw the local PM? It's a "Catch 22" type of question. The question is... Would your opponent wait for you?

Personally, I feel it's cheap to smash one home while he's on his way there.  If he's sleeping on me he gets what he deserves, a score is a score. You snooze you loose!!!
But I'd look at it differently too if the score was 1-4 in his favor and he's on the hill of a 3/5 set in the winners bracket. That other bracket is a hard road I don't like to travel.

[SumnerH]

It's been over thirty years since I played in a Tornado Tourney.  I am wondering if there is any Etiquette as far as singles play goes.  i.e., Do most players give the opposition time to get back to goal if they get the ball to their 3 man?  Or is it more, dog eat dog, slap that sucka in da hole type of game?  Give stories and details on what you all prefer?

If you're faster in transition than your opponent, there's no reason not to use that to your advantage.  I mean, if you have a blazing fast pull, you don't pull it over to the long hole and then wait because "he's on his way there", do you?  Watch Terry Rue, Billy Pappas, Tony Spredeman, etc play some time--if you're not keeping up with them, that's something you need to work on.

If you're keeping your left hand on the 5-bar while they pass, that's your choice--you have a better chance at spiking it and picking it up on your 3-rod, but the price you pay is opening up the 5-bar shots and transition game more.  You definitely shouldn't be allowed to get that advantage without paying a cost for it!

[RedRazor]

Singles requires more agility and speed.

I personally feel if you pick up the ball on the 3bar and the oponient is not there shoot it.

Know one is going to wait for you to get your hands on those back bars.

As some one said its cheap, its not cheap and you better get your ass back on defense fast.

I said I think it is cheap. And I will wait for you to get there... I'm just a sporty fellow though.

[SumnerH]

I said I think it is cheap. And I will wait for you to get there... I'm just a sporty fellow though.

Do you think fast-breaks in basketball are cheap, and would you sit around waiting for the defense?  The transition game is one of the defining differences between singles and doubles, by not using it you're losing out on the singles experience.

I'd say that the transition game is pretty much the entire difference between the singles specialists and doubles specialists in foosball (of course, the very top players like Frederico, Billy, Spredeman, Terry, etc excel at both).

[RedRazor]

I said I think it is cheap. And I will wait for you to get there... I'm just a sporty fellow though.

Do you think fast-breaks in basketball are cheap, and would you sit around waiting for the defense?  The transition game is one of the defining differences between singles and doubles, by not using it you're losing out on the singles experience.

I'd say that the transition game is pretty much the entire difference between the singles specialists and doubles specialists in foosball (of course, the very top players like Frederico, Billy, Spredeman, Terry, etc excel at both).

I look at this sport from a rookie level and I know at some point and time we have all had the guy on the other side of the table give us back the ball on a dropped pass because it was the sporting thing to do.( This still happens to me ) I think there is a time to "Play" and then there is "THE" time to play. And maybe cheap wasn't the right choice of a word but it was the one I chose. I also looked at the original poster's question and gave him my answer from his/my frame of reference(rookie). I also totally agree with your statements on the transition game.

But once again I ask "would he wait for you?"

[Carp]

Well, I entered the Tulsa area Championships and just flat got owned.  I couldn't pass, I couldn't pull I couldn't catch the ball worth a flip.  The other "Rookies" may as well have been semi pro/pros.  I didn't expect to be able to do much, but the skill of these guys was amazing.  I had never played against anyone that used a snake and was taken to school very fast.  There was a great guy that didn't have a partner for Open doubles, so I offered to play goalie.  We won one match and ended up being highest Rookie team, LOL!  Now I haven't played in a tourney since the late '70's.  I just bought the coin-op the day before thanksgiving and may have played a total of 20 games in the last 25 years.  I was humbled very fast, yet, learned so much by watching all the games. 
     Now, a couple of these guys in Rookie singles were just killing me, and they were really nice while pounding the ball down my goal.  A couple of times, they would even give me the ball back at my 5 man after losing it like a moron.  Ha!  Bottom line is that I learned a lot, had a great time, and look forward to "honing" all aspects of my game and see what shakes in the future.  I also didn't mean to start an in forum argument, so thanks to those of you who have given your input. 

[RedRazor]

There is no argument here.  Just a difference in perspective. You and Onney did a great job. Hell, you even rolled two right past me if you wanna talk about getting owned. Practice on your table at home and be glad you have a good table to practice on. I still have to practice on a dead Dynamo and get very little time to make it to the Palace to practice on the Tornados. Also, keep going to the local tournaments during the week. Not everyone gets to play with "World" class pros like we do. I get a whooped everytime I step up to the table but I learn something new everytime too.

[jezzy]

Hey Carp & Redrazor,
i take it you 2 are from the Tulsa area
been 4 yrs. or so since ive been to the palace
sound of it they are still banging there
currently deployed overseaz
coming state side soon
ive been telling my front man...Spc.Tate
how the palace is unchained
so we got a trip planned for when we return
coming from the Manhattan Ks. area
maybe the 4 of us should hook up
and take on the WHOLE palace
i come from the palace area so i know the gamez
straight up banging...set up shotz...thatz me!
now my front manz from Madison Ws.
showed me a whole new like
hez got them slicez,cutz and anglez that kill
just let us know
if interested

Freedom costz you 75centz
Spc.Young-back
Spc.Tate-front

[Carp]

Ok Razor, you have me curious as to just who you are.  I met so many good people there.  Onney is just a great guy.  In my 49 years, I've met very few people I actually liked off the git go, and Onney ranks right up there as far as first impressions go.  As for Friday night tourneys, I am limited because of the joint custody of my young daughters.  This Friday is bad as I am trying my best to complete a job before Christmas. 

     As for you Mr. Young, thank you for your service to this country!!!!!  I'd like to buy you guys a beer when we do get together for a bit of foos.  Be safe, and have a good Christmas.
     

[jezzy]

Carp,
Comentz of such
make a year away from my family worth while
Thank You
other than that
im alwayz up for brew & Foos
Season greetingz playerz
keep your gamez sharp
keep in touch

The Underground Foosball King
Spc.Young U.S Army


P.S
Carp about the children situiation
i feel you
3 girls of my own
getting old enough to learn the game
plus gives me the excuse to play...LOL

[invisiblesmoke]

Go for it.  No one wants you to take it easy on them.  If they complain about their own poor defense, then go find some better players.